Possible dissociation during "normal" sexual experience
Submitted by freakshow on Fri, 11/26/2010 - 1:07pmA different thread was talking about detaching emotions from the memory of a traumatic event. This reminded me of a somewhat different instance of detachment that has been a recurring theme of my sexual experience.
I have never experienced sexual assault or abuse, but many of my sexual experiences have featured a detachment from any emotion. In my early sexual experience, I would enter that blank, empty place that might be a type of dissociation, and it felt so terrible that I would press on with the sexual interaction in order to try to feel something, but would be totally indifferent to the possibility of any kind of danger. So I made impulsive and risky (in terms of personal safety and STD danger) decisions, mainly with guys I didn't know very well, or in a few cases didn't know at all. It was like these experiences were completely detached from any other reality that I experienced. Everyone around me - then and TO THIS DAY - has always remarked about how innocent and even virginal I seem to be. I cannot figure this out (and of course I don't want to put too much emphasis on what people think or assume), except to suspect that in some ways my sexuality is still detached from the rest of my personality. Oh, and I still don't enjoy sex consistently. There are a lot of factors involved, I'm sure, like my husband and I don't even have sex currently. I haven't had sex at all in seven months. Sometimes I consider identifying myself as an asexual. But then I have this overwhelming sense of longing at times, which seems to overlap with sexual desire.
I have always tended to have more desire in my mind when I am alone, than when I am with someone in a sexual situation. I wonder what this is about. Is it because I have reservations about the situation, like times with past boyfriends where the relationship wasn't going so well? Is it because sex to me is sort of ridiculous and unnecessary, seeing as I'm personally not interested in reproduction?
How much does it have to do with my childhood emotional abuse from my father, who did not molest me in any physical way but still had WAY inappropriate emotional boundaries (his jealousy seemed more typical of a controlling spouse/boyfriend than of an un-self-disciplined parent) and also just provided an awful model for future relationship partners, influencing my history of attraction to men with abusive levels of rage and jealousy? I have been with men, including my husband, who do not have the abusive rage or jealousy, but it seems like these are the men that don't interest me as much sexually. The only time I felt at all sexually fulfilled was when I was with my very first serious boyfriend (after the first several guys I had sex with impulsively). The emptiness lifted during the second time we had sex (I had often experienced the emptiness when first behaving sexually with this guy before we actually had sex) and it became like the most potent drug. I had never experienced anything so ecstatic and addictive.
The end of that relationship (eight years ago - it lasted a year and a half) was an epiphany and a rebirth for me, and I improved my life and my choice of relationships in a lot of ways at that time. But I never consistently enjoyed sex so much again after that. It has often been a disappointment and a source of frustration, despite my private sexual desire remaining strong - at least in my mind. At this point, I am comfortable with taking a break from the whole mess, and I believe, as he states, that my husband is whole-heartedly comfortable with this too. I feel like I have enough other parts of life to deal with at this time.
But, knowing myself at least somewhat, I still intend to examine this part of my life as I am examing so many other parts through writing, since it seems relevant and surely all parts of myself are connected to each other, even if this part seems cut off from everything else.
I feel like I'm not seeing the whole picture. Does anyone have any experience with this type of fragmented sexuality, or any thoughts about it? Thanks, y'all. I really appreciate being able to talk about this. I couldn't bring myself to say this much on the main forums.
P.S. Oh, and I still get crushes. In some ways they feel sexual, and in other ways it seems to indicate the simple need for deep human emotional contact, which is what I try to emphasize, since I know the crush itself can "lie" to me about the perceived virtues of the person I'm crushing on or the less-than-idyllic nature of sex and relationships.
I am glad to be on an antiD
I am glad to be on an antiD because it killed my sex drive. That sounds weird to a lot of people, but I just don't get caught up in it anymore, I am not wondering if I am pretty or if that guy at the grocery store liked me. It also takes away the potential for more abuse from boyfriends and husbands. This is not the way I want to do that, but it helps for now.
I always loved sex which seems weird to me, but my hippie parents never stopped me from masturbating when I was a young child, which I did nonstop to relax because I was very tense. It was my drug and self soothing. Since no one ever told me sex is bad, when I was a young teenager before I was raped I liked to make out with people, and I didn't really have intense emotions about the guys or girls. It was just fun. It stopped being fun when I had a boyfriend - the guy who raped me. After that sex seemed like a way to have someone protect me from rapists. I had sex with a lot of people I didn't want to because i didn't know I could say no, and also I would try to decide which guy was the best one as far as safety to have sex with, since I assumed I had to have sex with one of them. It stopped being very fun.
I was never in a scene that called anyone a slut, there were nonstop orgies. Iy bugged me though because I'd be 13 years old and wanting to read comic books and my friends would be drunk and 22 years old trying to lick maple syrup off my arms. The boundaries were nonexistant. I just have no clue about the No word.
Sometimes i would sleep with someone because I didn't have anyway to get home safely or didn't have a place to stay, but when the sun rose I'd be out the door without them knowing.
Also at some point in my 30s I realized I never had sex sober very often. But drunk I was a wild woman.
Any serious relationship I have had I was the aggressive one in starting it. Guys who hit on me might sleep with me if they trap me, but they don't go out with me. When I turned 15 and trying to get away from the rapist boyfriend, I found a ride to Boston and forced my self into the life of an artist heroin addict I had met at a party once. After 2 weeks he finally became my boyfriend. We were together for about 3 years and moved to SF. He was my way away from the rapist.
I had always been very submissive. One boyfriend wanted me to tie him and torture him, so I tied him up and then vacuumed my house. It wasn't what he wanted, which i thought was the point. Other than that I am so girly girl and submissive. I like being part of their fantasy. It makes me feel safe. I think it also makes me think they won't leave me. But the idea of being the dominate one makes me feel very confused, I am not sure how that would even be possible. Even in my fantasies I am submissive and a lot of time I see everything through the imagery guy's eyes, not mine. And I used to have a lot of rape fantasies and that is one reason I am happy for the antiD, I am sick of putting myself through that. Even as a small child I had rape fantasies, we used to play Barbie gets gang raped by bikers. Where did we get that? A lot of my early stories (age 10 or 11) had characters getting gang raped and falling apart. I have no clue where that came from.
This guy I met in the psych ward 2 years ago I fell for, he was very into my body and he thought I was 19 (I was 37 but I look very young because I am allergic to sunlight). My exhushand would never have sex with me and said I was ugly and fat and terrible and crazy and cried too much to have sex with - In the end he told me he felt scared when he had sex with me because he felt too naked and we broke up then. So my self esteem was shot and this cute guy in the hospital is telling me he wants to have sex with me, and also I am sucker for the bonding we had, he had been raped, and we had similar interestes like art and religion. But he was married. However I was able to start having sexual fantasies about him wanting me that didn't involved rape or abuse. That made me happy.
There is just so much power weirdness. I wonder what sex would be like for me if it didn't tie into rent being paid. I always feel like my boyfriends own me and I have to be what they want to survive. I don't think any of them knew me at all. After my second marriage's wedding, I turned to my husband and said "How much of the time can I be me and how much do you want me to be your wife, because I have been 100% your libe in girlfriend, but if this is forever, I might need 10% of my time to be me." That was a weird thing to say. But I have always felt like an accessory. I was a part of their lives, and they were never in mine. I think guys who wanted to be in mine I felt invaded by.
Also my dad is a real wimpy person, so passive aggressive and lies a lot, so I am attarcted to strong men, the ones with guns, and that usually is terrible. People met me and I'm a pacifist and all that and then they meet my guys and it's like "Huh?" But I have always felt I need to be associated with the strongest and scariest guy so no other guy would harm me. Isn't that the patriarchial way? I want to be protected, so I date abusers? My Dad did nothing to protect me ever. He was useless and he didn't take care of me. So when you're homeless and 14, you sorta have to have a boyfriend.
I don't know what I am attarcted to now that I started looking at the trauma. I didn't even acknowledge the rape and domestic violence and parental neglect til about 2 years ago and I have been celebate since I left my husband in LA 3 years ago. I just don't know why I would want a boyfriend at this point since I have a place to live and health insurance and a vibrator. I am not sure what the point of a boyfriend would be for me since I am OK. I cannot think of anything they could offer me especially where I am in trauma recovery land. Rockstars and rockstar wanna bes always wanted to go out with me because I was a rock journalist and worked for William Burroughs, but they just seem so shallow and dumb to me now. I am not sure where else men might like me. pagan men are rare and the ones that are in the scene are usually goth shallow guys. And the manarchists, the male dominated anarchist scene, it sucks, too macho. And the stupid men who are trying to speak nonviolently but are still condescending and have no fucking clue of their privalle and assholeness - I hate them most of all. And i hate weak men. And I want someone straight edge. Oh and I dislike children so where can I find a 40 year old man with no kids?
And what man wants an unemployed, overweight woman with health issues and doctor bills who talks all the time about new sceintific theories and politcal ideas and hisorical religious facts - Guys get excited that they are dating someone with a 157 IQ, but then they learn it's not that fun for them since they don't read books. I am terrible at small talk too. Plus most guys are like most people and want these stupid normal lives I am morally offended by and are mean if you are afraid of email. And it's sorta hard for me to relate to a lot of people because I have traveled so much and done so much, so when the guy has just smoked pot and played XBox all his life in one town, well, huh. Bored.
I take the antiD and don't have to deal with low self esteem, fights, sex, jeaousy, paranoia, fear, abuse etc.....
I am always happier single.
"It's the end," said the caterpillar. "It's the beginning," said the butterfly.